I have have the CKTL210 25' SF with the expanding high temperature material stuff commonly used in the electronics industry to keep cables together. Don't know exaclty what its called. I'm wanting to try hydraulic hose wrap that another member used on his torch.

 

The leather velcro cover from CK is surprisingly light.

 

That is what I have been using. Happy with it so far.

Greg

 

I got one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/TIG-Welding...lon-w-Zipper-U-S-Seller-/190832638849?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6e82fb81

It's not quite as heavy as the weldcraft, but it's 1/4 the price. I'd say quality wise, it's 75% as good as the weldcraft.

 

The one that came on my htp wp20 with 25 foot cover was a extra cheapo, so I hope know one recommends it lol

 

Actually it depends. I have three of those leather CK covers. One of those was "heavy duty", compared to the other two, which were much thinner. Not sure why, I guess it depends on the supplier of the leather. Luck of the draw I suppose.

 

Tough, lightweight, and inexpensive. 2" tubular webbing for rock climbing.

 

seems excessively large diameter-wise

 

I used to use a leather velcro. Now I have a denim/jean cover from china. It's lighter, abrasive resistant and I am sure fire resistant from the harmful ozone eating chemicals that are used in the manufacturing process. Was like $20-25$ shipped for a 25' cover. I couldn't make one for that price.

 

Dang!!!!!!!!!!!

It is called the Cowboy cover. For $14 bucks for a 25 foot zippered cover and free shipping you can't go wrong. Sure it is from China, but a unique and very light solution that I have never seen before. Too bad they can't use black denim.

Good find!

 

Ago industries has continuous Velcro cable covers for MIG and TIG cables. It comes in 100' rolls and you can cut off the exact length you need or welding supplies that carry it will sell you the length you need. It's not very expensive either. I couldn't find a good single picture but it's on pg. 51 and 52 of their catalog.

http://www.ago1.com/WeldCat07.pdf

 

http://www.amazon.com/CK-225HCLV-Cover-Leather-Velcro/dp/B00JMG3K82

The leather velcrow CK cover isn't light; I have it on my torch right now. The velcro joint all the way down the ting makes it very non-flexible and it massively increases the the minimum bend radius.
It killed the dexterity at the torch so I had to use that chinese finger trap expanding mesh wire loom stuff right at the torch where all the bending is happening.

The cheapo zipper vinyl covers are excellent for what you're looking for and are very pleasant to work with and offer good abrasion resistance.

 

@ Oscar - partially correct. Deceptive appearance. Ok, there's probably ~ 20% internal 'extra' volume, but the next smaller size would not accommodate the 2ea lines. Trust me, the tubular webbing is light/light, flexible {key!}, and tough. Below is my valved, air-cooled, WP-17 torch with CKW SuperFlex line for scratch/lift start off an XMT 304 CC/CV. She's purrfectly sized and feather-light.

 

I like both your covers

 

@ManoKai

I am fairly familiar with the tubular webbing that is utilized in the climbing community. I can definitely attest that it is very abrasive resistant and very strong (will hold in excedss of 25KN). Have used it to protect ropes as well as extension cords, even towing vehicles in a pinch and I think it's great for a tig torch however the stuff degrades when exposed to UV and is somewhat heat sensitive and it does have a fairly low melting point (we use lighters to close up loose ends). So those would be some considerations depending on the application.

The main sizes that you would find it a typical climbing store are 9/16", 1" and 2". But there are a bunch of sizes between 1 inch and 2 inches so for those that have a concern about the excessive size you can get tubular webbing at 1 1/2 inches and 1 3/4 inches. Hope this helps.

 

I been using the hydraulic hose sheathing for a bit now and its holding up great
so light and flexible but not for a industrial shop environment,next cover will be braided silica sleeving
i think,trying to find some in a bulk lot for cheap??


http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php?404761-CK-flex-loc-tig-torch&highlight=

 

@ MikeGyver - negative. You'll need the Red. My 3-piece H2O CKW SuperFlex would not fit.

Edit: will measure my Red for diameter and advise. Note, webbing internal dia. is smaller because of the stiching.

 

While searching for covers I came across this site, it looks like they have every cable wrap known to man.
http://www.cabletiesandmore.com/american/catalog/braided-sleeving-c-69.php

Now I really don't know which one to get.

Going to standardize my cable covers because the LWS ones are 2'-3' shorter than the torch cable which I absolutely hate.

 

Anyone got a 25' long TIG finger

 

@ Weld -

@ MikeGyver - measured a remnant of the Red tubing in the shop. 2" flat (external) yields a maximum usable ID of 1-1/8". She'll work fine for your 3-piece CKW water torch setup. When you go to cut the webbing to length, wrap electrical tape around each bitter end, razor cut midspan across the tape and thru the webbing, remove tape, zippo burn each end to seal threads. For burn-in, ensure you do not close up the circle, just nip each end.

The Blue webbing in the shop is 1" flat (external) with a usable internal ID of ~ 1/2". Blue's good for a one-piece SuperFlex.

 

During FABTECH'15, was gifted this FlexTech sample kit from a pretty young wahine. The kit consists of 1" turtle wrap, 3/4" FT, 3/4" insultherm, 7/8" flex, 3/4" flexo, 1/2" gorilla, and 1-1/2" thermashield. The 1" turtle wrap, shown 2nd from right in image below has velcro, while the remaining samples are seamless.

Installed the 1" dia x 3" long turtle wrap sample on water-cooled CKW flex hose TIG torch to 'close the gap'. The TIG torch is currently setup with a POS zipper cover that's disastrous. The turtle fits nicely. Planning to order a 25' TW ($95) and install on our water-cooled CKW FlexLoc TIG setup.

OEM specs on the turtle from the TechFlex site,

"Turtle Wrap is made of 1,000 Denier Cordura, and double coated with proprietary high FR Neoprene. This protection sleeve is used for bundling and wrapping hoses and cables. The reusable sleeve features Mil-Spec extreme Hook & Loop closure which allows installation without disconnecting hoses and can reduce labor time by 70%. TW is an excellent choice for weld cable or welding hose that is often dragged across the floor. This material resists sparks and hot spall. Turtle Wrap is also used in Subsea maintenance where barnacles, sea life and salt water can damage hoses. This sleeve is also heavily used on off-shore oil rigs. Turtle Wrap is available in Black."

 

Did you give up on the tubular webbing?

 

I like these Tec Torch/WeldTec pigskin covers. They're light and don't melt. They can be had via Amazon and Weldfabulous directly.

 

@ Weld - neg, still retaining the red tubular webbing on a CK17 dual-hose air cooled torch & blue tubular webbing on a CK17 single-hose, valved, torch. The webbing has performed flawlessly.

The 'Honu' (Turtle Wrap) will be integrated to our CKW FlexLoc tri-hose torch. The velcro, lightweight, and abrasive features of the Honu are attractive. Echoes to days of future past when we used velcro covers on our deep sea umbilicals for SSDS ops.

 

tubular webbing is some of my favorite.

 

Recently installed 25' of 1" TurtleWrap from FlexTech onto a water-cooled 18-Series CKW TIG Torch w/ SuperFlex hoses. Simple to install/deinstall,pliable, super-light, and melts at 800F. Done with any zipper covers. Done. The old Radnor one that came with our first TIG torch was disastrous. Failed/snapped zipper, suck teeth, and no lighter than the "HonuWrap". That POS is now in the trash.

 

Looks like "Turtlewrap" is basically "Tough Duck".

I used the leather velcro wraps, but if your cooling line decides to crap out on you, they turn to a slimy sticky grossness. Kind of like a freshly chewed rawhide.:blush2:

The only thing I do'nt like about webbing is the amount of crap swept off the floors and sticks to them.

 

Looks like "Turtlewrap" is basically "Tough Duck".

Not quite. TurtleWrap is made from 1000 Denier CORDURA, a Nylon 66 based product that first gained commercial popularity in the late 60s, and a fire-resistant Neoprene coating. Tough Duck, if you mean the trade name, is a 600 Denier canvas product made with polyester.

CORDURA is mildew resistant, whereas Duck is more prone to retaining mildew. Have no insight into the fire resistantanve of Tough Duck but it ain't holding up to temps of 800F unless there's some magic fairy dust applied to the surface.

Note, the Denier value has nothing do with strength as many assume, but rather a measure of specific weight (weight per unit area).

 

Cordura has a "Tough Duck". My ex-gf's family sells it by in bulk in their store and manufactures products from it. It has a weave texture on the front, and smooth plastic on the back. It definitely is not canvas by any means, and it is thick.

 

I do like the idea of tubular webbing, the friction drag will be almost zero.

I hate rubber or leather covers just for the drag you get, although suede is much much nicer. I went with a cheap as chips chinese denim cover for my last torch, I really like it

 

Keep away from the sheaths that zip up as the zipper can easily fail with gunck, swarf, spatter, etc getting in it.
I prefer the velcro ones.