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Bandsaw hydraulic cylinder not holding - repair suggestions needed

8.9K views 18 replies 8 participants last post by  royesses  
#1 ·
The needle valve on the hydraulic cylinder on my bandsaw is not holding the cutting arm up and I cannot adjust the feed rate. I think the needle valve is not restricting the flow of the hydraulic fluid properly. If anyone has suggestions on how to repair it I would appreciate your suggestions. I can order a replacement, but it will take a week to get here from Northern Tool.
 
#5 ·


This is a picture of the cylinder. The small brass valve on the top is what controls the rate of feed. The red handle allows it to drop or holds it up. I tightened all of the connections and it still does not work. How do Iknow if it is low on fluid and if low how do I add fluid.

Thanks Jay
 
#8 ·
if it comes down with ball valve closed (those are pretty reliable in "not steam" applications)

your leak is internal, like john was getting at. you should open up the cylinder and take a look
 
#11 ·
In the last couple of months it had been taking a couple of "pumps" when lifting it up to make it catch, but yesterday it would not catch at all. I will take it apart tonight, but I have never worked on something like this so don't really know what to look for.

You don't realize how much you depend on something until it doesn't work when you need it.
 
#14 ·
I'm 90% sure you need more fluid or just need to bleed the cylinder. A lot of times those cylinders are self-bleeding so start with adding more fluid. You can buy hydraulic oil at Autozone. This isn't CNC machinery we're talking about, you don't need to worry about matching oils. They sell a fluid literally called "hydraulic oil". Just got to find out where the fill port is.
 
#15 ·
I rebuilt the let down cylinder on my Johnson J model last winter. Just bought a new cup from a cylinder seal shop and refilled with iso 150 oil if I remember correctly is what it called for.
 
#17 ·
Doesn't look like there is any leakage. I did find a good parts diagram and it shows an o ring and oil seal so I ordered both. I think the only way to add oil is to take the connection at the bottom of the cylinder off and put it in there. I will see it adding oil helps tonight, if not the parts should be here early next week. If adding oil helps I will have the seal and o ring when I need them.
 
#19 ·
I use hydraulic jack oil (mineral oil base) in mine. Available at any auto parts or hardware store. It would be a good idea to change the oil when you replace the seals and o'rings. It is very easy to do the repair so don't worry about messing it up. Take your time and protect the rubber parts from nicks. Put a little bit of oil on the seals. You will do fine.

Roy