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I need help with a Millermatic 250 Circuit Board

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#1 · (Edited)
I need help with a Millermatic 250 Circuit Board Please

I just bought a millermatic 250 and took the cover off to blow the dust out and saw something funny on the circuit board. It seem to weld fine and comes with the optional modules to hookup spool guns. The previous owner said it work fine and they mostly used it with spool guns until the spool gun broke and then upgraded to a 252 push pull system.

I'm not sure what it is, what caused it or if it will be a problem. The number on the number on the board is 177162. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

 
#2 ·
call miller tech support. have your serial number and full model name at hand. ask them the same question. if you can figure out the number of the resistor it might help.
They won't help repair the pcb. But you should be able to get from them want that resistor does, If the cause is on the pcb or off the pcb. And where to look if off pcb.
 
#5 ·
Yea, Tim. It's amazing I've seen some wire wound resistors that looked absolutely smoked, even broken in appearance yet still functioned.

Hopefully nothing else is fried. Can be tricky attempting a repair. Taking it out might actually damage something else in the process. Repair on that board may only be a couple few hundred bux. Hard to say tho.
 
#6 · (Edited)
That's a through hole board, so unless the board delaminated from the heat, I would not think that would be too bad, and likely the foil is pretty beefy (and for power stuff like that, heavy flying ties will repair bad traces easily). And, myself, to change that on a working board, I'd be mad as hell to be charged a couple hundred . . . the part is likely $2 or so, and maybe 10 minutes if you don't have to pull the board as well.
 
#10 · (Edited)
Thanks for all the info. I did call Miller twice. The first time they said it was resistor #159 1/4 watt 82.5 kohm and # 160 1/4 watt 332 kohm. He said it look like it was involved with the gun trigger 15v circuit and it was probably caused due to a shorted gun but assured me if the welder was still operating, they were still functional. He suggested to keep welding and if in the future they gave me problems to have them replaced.
So I went online and tried to order some so I would have them on hand and realized they didn't look like anything like the ones Miller suggested. The one on the right I could read the codes and apperently it is a 5 watt 5 resistor ohm wire wound tubular resistor.
I called Miller back, talked to a different tech and he gave me the same resistors as the first tech. I told him what I found out and he checked the board material list and there was a 5w 5 ohm resistor on the list, but only one. He suggested metering the resistors to confirm their value before they stop functioning so I would know the values for sure. The one on the right was 5 ohms and the one on the left I couldn't read but I don't know if I had a good connection or not. The board seems to have a coating on it.
 
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