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Bernzomatic "Oxygen Tote Torch KIt" torch

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#1 ·
Recently I was going through some of my old stuff and now have a decision to make about what to do with one thing.

Some good while ago, I acquired one of these Bernzomatic model 2500 torch sets, probably from the Toxic Waste warehouse; I'm posting a generic picture of the "kit" for those who don't know what it is. I don't recall if I checked it when I first got it, but now I find it has a mostly full Mapp cylinder, an empty Oxygen cylinder, the plastic cylinder holder, the torch, hose and connectors assembly, and an unused 'flint' sparker.

Just out of curiosity, I checked Ebay and see such kits/partial kits/torches have recently sold for from $25 to $45 or more, but I have no interest in trying to sell on Ebay, and with new O2 cylinders (that hold so little) selling for $25 on up, have no interest even in trying the torch using such bottles.

I do have a spare smaller standard O2 bottle and spare normal regulators so could test the torch that way, but don't really have the drive to do so any more, so thought I'd just ask here if anyone has ever used the torch from one of these kits for small work, perhaps jewelry making or building micro-models of cars, engines, or?? If so, how did you like it?

Second question: what would you do with it if someone left one of these kits in your garage/shop?

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#2 ·
I bought one in 1995. I built a track bicycle frame with it. Race the bike in 1996 Olympic trials. The torch is not real useful. Very small flame. It would not heat the tubing readily, causing large consumption of those little cylinders. From experience, I would have no need to experiment. I donated mine to Goodwill.
 
#5 ·
I agree with the above.

I had one years ago.... they suck. The Ox tanks lasts about 10 minutes.
I still have a small bottle mapp gas torch but mainly use it for starting the charcoal grill.... or warming something up before I paint it.... in the winter.

I'm looking into a propane turbo torch one of these days... to have in the garage.... they are a bit pricey but very nice.
 
#12 ·
I'm looking into a propane turbo torch one of these days... to have in the garage.... they are a bit pricey but very nice.
Set up an item "watch" on eBay,, when the right one pops up, at the RIGHT price,, buy it,,

All the women in our family likes a specific pair of tweezers,,
I set up a watch for it,, and got 4 of them within 6 months,, all at GREAT prices,,
The regular price was about $35,, I got them for ~$15,,

I think I had a watch set up for the TurboTorch,,
I have four of the T-6 propane tips, and probably 8 or 10 other size tips,,

Typically, the orifice needs cleaned, sometimes they need an O-ring,,

It is nice having multiple T-6 equipped torches,,
You can heat a BIG piece of steel in a hurry,, but, like you said,, full price makes these torches less attractive,,

I think the acetylene tips can be converted to propane, by installing a larger orifice,,

The acetylene tips are more plentiful used on eBay,,
I do not have that conversion data at my fingertips,,,,,,,,,,
 
#6 ·
I saw one being used to fill holes in Aluminum irrigation pipe with solder. They had a pile of empty 02 cans laying there.

Surprisingly these sets sold pretty well for as inept that they were.
 
#8 ·
If one already had an OA or oxy-propane setup w/ larger torch, does anyone have a good idea how this torch would run using propane, natural gas or Mapp and oxygen from a standard bottle? Is the flame controllable enough to use on small projects, if the gas supply weren't a problem?

Or maybe using propane + oxygen from a medical O2 Concentrator? Not sure the pressure is high enough from the latter, but I might be able to use a spare compressor and old compressor tank to store the 85% or so O2 from one at 10-15 psi? Wonder what maximum pressure would be safe to compress/store 85% O2 this way? Not that I really have the time to play with this...
 
#11 ·
I used mapp. But if you have a torch, why would you use it to operate an inferior product.
The idea of using small O2 bottles may not make sense, but that doesn't mean the torch is inferior. My OA torch is a large Harris and if I were needing a small, pinpoint flame for brazing/silver soldering very small stuff, a small torch like this one might be more comfortable to use, assuming it worked well. That is the (academic) question; how well would it work if supplied with gas from normal bottles?
 
#15 ·
I've never tried one personally, but it seems to me most of the guys talking about doing fine detail work with torches were using Smith.
 
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#19 ·
I have one of those kits. The oxygen ran out before I could even burn anything. Oldiron if you search this site for propane/ oxy cutting you will learn that propane uses more oxy for cutting than acety. Those kits are a gimmick and waste of money imo. The oxy tank is to small for anything usefull. Ive melted silver solder with MAPP and others have mentioned melting silver with propane but Ive only been able to melt tin/lead with propane. Dont waste your money on those tiny oxy tanks. The TURBO torches are nice and I have couple for acety I use mainly for heating with a B tank. I wonder if the acety torch will work with propane? I will have to try sometime.